Elf

[Viz]

Originally Posted by Remedy

I guess the reason behind the 2 plus barracks that he has room for training... So it's not a bad idea....

I never train But actually maybe not a bad idea, yep.

Thank you for the tips.
Can somebody write me a building list for 1000 acre,( Elf/Sage for thieving)?

[Viz]

Originally Posted by zstzs

Thank you for the tips.
Can somebody write me a building list for 1000 acre,( Elf/Sage for thieving)?

Elf/Sage
1000 acres
House: 188 /population 12220
Store: 10
Farm: 115 Pf:10092 Cf:10681 ( 16 rounds are covered )
Barrack:150 /7800 Archer
Fort (15%):150 /7800 Archer
Temple: 170 /22100 Mages
Inn: 217 /11284Thieves

So basically you only have to check it twice daily to feed ( really not much )
And if you want to steal from a half elf then ( after some spells casted on it )
You can steal through about 10500 thieves.
And you're pretty strong in defence.

[Smooth Scroller]

this is impossible, of course.

i put the datas into the "hodito 5 tools" program, and with 50% readiness the half-elf defense points are 21227, the elf attack points are 16756 (100% readiness)...

both country are sage, 100% military mood. and the distance is 2 rounds. (the half-elf uses the special spell of course with 12000 dweller.)

the half-elf is much more powerful thief than an elf.

[Viz]

Originally Posted by Smooth Scroller

this is impossible, of course.

i put the datas into the "hodito 5 tools" program, and with 50% readiness the half-elf defense points are 21227, the elf attack points are 16756 (100% readiness)...

both country are sage, 100% military mood. and the distance is 2 rounds. (the half-elf uses the special spell of course with 12000 dweller.)

the half-elf is much more powerful thief than an elf.

Yes but with 50% readiness and after 3 readiness spent on killing thieves from 10500 you can penetrate them while he can't really do the same for you.

Oh, and forgot to say, that you should count with about 200 people or dunno actually it depends which level.

[Smooth Scroller]

what 200 people?
and what level are you talking about? there is no matter!

you talked about 1000 acres. OK, me too. your elf has 12000 people, the half-elf has only 200? no way...

your 11300 thieves of elf have absolutely no chance to steal from a half-elf with 10500 thieves. killing + tiring or not. no real chance.

you have to kill min. 2500 thieves and have to tire 50% on the half-elf. and than you can steal 1 or maybe 2 times (!) from 2 rounds distance. or else you will fail.

8000 half-elf thieves (with 50% readiness) defense points: 16173
11284 elf thieves (with 100% readiness) attack points: 16756.

it has no point about it.

(and i think, if you have 11300 thieves, the half-elf will have 13000-14000.)

[Viz]

Originally Posted by Smooth Scroller

what 200 people?
and what level are you talking about? there is no matter!

you talked about 1000 acres. OK, me too. your elf has 12000 people, the half-elf has only 200? no way...

your 11300 thieves of elf have absolutely no chance to steal from a half-elf with 10500 thieves. killing + tiring or not. no real chance.

you have to kill min. 2500 thieves and have to tire 50% on the half-elf. and than you can steal 1 or maybe 2 times (!) from 2 rounds distance. or else you will fail.

8000 half-elf thieves (with 50% readiness) defense points: 16173
11284 elf thieves (with 100% readiness) attack points: 16756.

it has no point about it.

(and i think, if you have 11300 thieves, the half-elf will have 13000-14000.)

Sure they would have more, but what I was talking about is:

Not how many people the half-elf has, but how many people are actually in the group. if the distance divided by the number of people in the group (or more) than it doesn't make any difference, but if you take less, it does.
If the half-elf haas 8k thieves with 50% readiness and you have 11300 with 100% than you can steal about until 80% readiness, but you take scrolls, so next round you can take more and in three days you got all, but he can't steal through you.
Of course it differs if he buys the scrolls back, or steals it back ( not if you tire them always )
but my point is that an elf should be stronger in mages to tire and kill the half-elf than more thieves and about the same amount of wizards.
Because of course than half-elf is stronger.
Tell me if I'm not right, but with this kind of elf build i survived until 2/b fine

[Xeper]

Originally Posted by Smooth Scroller

your 11300 thieves of elf have absolutely no chance to steal from a half-elf with 10500 thieves. killing + tiring or not. no real chance.

you have to kill min. 2500 thieves and have to tire 50% on the half-elf. and than you can steal 1 or maybe 2 times (!) from 2 rounds distance. or else you will fail.

You are wrong.
I had 10400 thieves my elf, found a half-elf with 11500 thieves, and I stole all of the half-elf's scrolls
First I killed as much thief as I could.
When the wizards were ready again, I tired the half-elf's thieves, opened a portal, and stole everything. About 4% of the thieves dies in one kill. 9* kill~8k thieves survived. About 5 rounds later wizards are ready to tire the thieves