what 200 people?
and what level are you talking about? there is no matter!

you talked about 1000 acres. OK, me too. your elf has 12000 people, the half-elf has only 200? no way...

your 11300 thieves of elf have absolutely no chance to steal from a half-elf with 10500 thieves. killing + tiring or not. no real chance.

you have to kill min. 2500 thieves and have to tire 50% on the half-elf. and than you can steal 1 or maybe 2 times (!) from 2 rounds distance. or else you will fail.

8000 half-elf thieves (with 50% readiness) defense points: 16173
11284 elf thieves (with 100% readiness) attack points: 16756.

it has no point about it.

(and i think, if you have 11300 thieves, the half-elf will have 13000-14000.)

Sure they would have more, but what I was talking about is:

Not how many people the half-elf has, but how many people are actually in the group. if the distance divided by the number of people in the group (or more) than it doesn't make any difference, but if you take less, it does.
If the half-elf haas 8k thieves with 50% readiness and you have 11300 with 100% than you can steal about until 80% readiness, but you take scrolls, so next round you can take more and in three days you got all, but he can't steal through you.
Of course it differs if he buys the scrolls back, or steals it back ( not if you tire them always )
but my point is that an elf should be stronger in mages to tire and kill the half-elf than more thieves and about the same amount of wizards.
Because of course than half-elf is stronger.
Tell me if I'm not right, but with this kind of elf build i survived until 2/b fine

no, you have to calculate ONLY the dwellers of the half-elf country. not the whole group.

You don't know anything about stealing than, read help:)
If you are stealing it actualy matters how many people are in the level.
You're talking about the Shadows spell, which has nothing to do about he stealing itself, just raises your power.

hm, it means "you know nothing!" it is a little too strong reflection, isnt it? or did you mean "you dont know something"?

and cut here this help section please about shadows and the connection of the whole group, please.

Sorry about the expression, i was just too annoyed that you dont get what i meant, but i see that you still dont do.
It has nothing to do with shadows it has something to do with stealing.
Read the bottom of thievery help.

i have no country now in queosia, i see the help only in hodito, but i didnt find anything what you are talking about. please copy here this block.

Modifying formula: difference between ranks of your country and the opponent's country * 20 / number of the players in the group.

If the result is less than 1, then you must count with 1. Your opponent's defense strength must be multiplied by this number.

i found it in hungarian version. and you are wrong! read the help text above this block. the original block has 3 paragraph, not 2! you didnt copy the whole block. and the truth is is the 1st paragraph:

"... beyond spells ..." (or something)

hey man, the spells are in matter, and BEYOND spells, this rule is right. but you forget the 1st paragraph.

of course, the shadow is good for attack and for defense too...!


and the hodito tools calculate the shadow for defense too (asks the dwellers). check it out!

You two are talking about two completely different things.... :P